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Stars and Signs [part two]
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Constellation |
Sun Enters/Leaves |
# of Days |
# of Degrees |
Tropical Dates |
Sidereal Dates |
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Aries |
Apr 19 - May 13 |
25 |
24.66 |
Mar 21 - Apr 20 |
Apr 14 - May 14 |
Taurus |
May 14 - Jun 19 |
37 |
36.49 |
Apr 21 - May 21 |
May 15 - Jun 14 |
Gemini |
Jun 20 - Jul 20 |
31 |
20.58 |
May 22 - Jun 21 |
Jun 15 - Jul 15 |
Cancer |
Jul 21 - Aug 9 |
20 |
19.73 |
Jun 22 - Jul 22 |
Jul 16 - Aug 16 |
Leo |
Aug 10 - Sep 15 |
37 |
36.49 |
Jul 23 - Aug 22 |
Aug 17 - Sep 16 |
Virgo |
Sep 16 - Oct 30 |
45 |
44.38 |
Aug 23 - Sep 23 |
Sep 17 - Oct 16 |
Libra |
Oct 31 - Nov 22 |
23 |
22.69 |
Sep 24 - Oct 23 |
Oct 17 - Nov 15 |
Scorpio |
Nov 23 - Nov 29 |
7 |
6.9 |
Oct 24 - Nov 22 |
Nov 16 - Dec 15 |
Ophiuchus |
Nov 30 - Dec 17 |
18 |
17.75 |
N/A |
N/A |
Sagittarius |
Dec 18 - Jan 18 |
32 |
31.56 |
Nov 23 - Dec 21 |
Dec 16 - Jan 13 |
Capricorn |
Jan 19 - Feb 15 |
28 |
27.62 |
Dec 22 - Jan 20 |
Jan 14 - Feb 12 |
Aquarius |
Feb 16 - Mar 11 |
24 |
23.67 |
Jan 21 - Feb 19 |
Feb 13 - Mar 12 |
Pisces |
Mar 12 - Apr 18 |
38 |
37.48 |
Feb 20 - Mar 20 |
Mar 13 - Apr 13 |
The table should illustrate clearly the difference between the signs and the constellations. The signs, you will remember, are units of measurement, each consisting of 30 degrees of arc. The constellations may take up an average of about 30 degrees of arc each, but they certainly aren't very useful as units of measurement.
This is also the answer to the "13th Sign" myth. While there are most certainly 13 constellations that cross the ecliptic, the signs are not the same thing as the constellations. Why the Ancients chose to name the 8th Sign after Scorpio (which barely takes up 7° of arc) rather than Ophiuchus (which covers a more respectable 17.75°) will probably remain a mystery.
It should also be obvious from looking at this table that the Sidereal Zodiac does not rely on the constellations any more than the Tropical Zodiac does. While there is certainly a greater correlation between the Sidereal Signs and the constellations along the ecliptic, again, the constellations do not divide the ecliptic into equal segments and therefore they are not used as the basis for the Sidereal Zodiac. In fact, there even appears to be a discrepancy between when Dr. Shapiro notes that the Sun enters the Constellation of Aries and when the Sidereal Sign of Aries is thought to begin (for the year 1997).
The discrepancy between where astrologers place a planet in the night sky, and where astronomers place that same planet is also related to the difference between the Constellations, the Tropical Zodiac and the Sidereal Zodiac. Based on the dates in the table, on October 24, the Sun would be found in the Constellation of Virgo, the Tropical Sign of Scorpio, and the Sidereal Sign of Libra.
And finally, the argument that astrology can't work because the precession of the equinoxes make it invalid, or at least wildly inaccurate (which is essentially what the "scientist" was referring to who prompted Debbie's question), simply brings up the difference between the Tropical and the Sidereal Zodiacs. Along the ecliptic, again, the constellations do not divide the ecliptic into equal segments and therefore they are not used as the basis for the Sidereal Zodiac. In fact, there even appears to be a discrepancy between when Dr. Shapiro notes that the Sun Enters the Constellation of Aries and when the Sidereal Sign of Aries is thought to begin (for the year 1997).
Once again, although the Tropical and the Sidereal Zodiacs are very different, they each represent an entirely valid system of astrology.
This concludes the article by Kevin Burk.
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